Clinton ahead of Obama in WV poll

By Scott Finn and Anna Sale

In other primaries, Clinton has done well among certain groups – whites, the elderly, the less-well educated, low-income voters, and people in rural areas.

Well, West Virginia is one of the whitest, oldest, least-educated, lowest-income, most rural states in the nation.

So guess how Clinton is polling here? Mark Blankenship, a Charleston-based pollster, just released a poll showing Clinton leading Obama by 38 points – 56 percent Clinton, 18 percent Obama, and 26 percent undecided.

That’s in line with two other polls, one by national pollster Rasmussen Reports, the other by Charleston-based TSG Consulting, which show her about 30 to 40 points ahead.

In the small town of Man in Logan County, Hillary Clinton has nothing to worry about this primary season.

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57 Comments on “Clinton ahead of Obama in WV poll”

  1. maria Says:

    Thank God America is waking UP!!!!!!

    Go HILLARY, she will win PA and WV by 30% and put an end to this circus.

    http://www.hillaryspeaksforme.com

  2. Geronimo Says:

    GO WEST VIRGINIA.. We need the most qualified person to lead this country and Hillary is the one to do it. AMERICA NEEDS HILLARY IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

  3. Marc Gendron Says:

    I agree, this is a circus and Hillary has the experience and Obama does not. Time to bow out Obama bin Laden.

  4. vanessa mahmoud Says:

    it is so sad that your racism is so intense. it is a sickness you know

  5. Edward Johnson III Says:

    Does the dubious “experience” that Senator Clinton supposedly has include her years as 1st lady in Washington D.C. & in Arkansas?
    Senotor Clinton “misspoke” on (at least) three separate, public occassions about being under “intense sniper fire” in Bosnia along with her Chelsea (then a teenager [which – if had been actually true – would be child endangerment); how a man who worked for years as a Community Organizer in an extremely poor section of Chicago (after graduating as an undergrad from Columbia univerisity [when he could have taken a choice of numerous lucrative job opportunities in New York]) and whose mother was on food stamps at one point in his life can be labeled as “Elitist”.
    As far as the Rev. Wright stuff – Rev. Wright served honorably in the U.S. Marines and in the Navy – Bill Clinton, Dick Cheney & George W. bush served ???

  6. shari p. Says:

    we will support you fully. get the negativity out of the white house and support our country as our forfathers did.

    thanks for what a good job you do for our country

  7. max Says:

    Vanessa!!!! I don’t see any negativity or racism in these posts. Why would you ever say such a thing. That is an unfair attack against candidates who are of different races.

  8. vincent g. Says:

    Go hillary….and keep the primaries going….. and bring the party down..i wuld say if she loses the primaries..she should stand as an idependent and you would get my vote…..go against the democratic party status qup and win this one…

    Bring the bill clinton policies back…and you could get a monica lewisnky replacemnt for urself…

    VOTE FOR HILLARY….

  9. j f n Says:

    max, i think vanessa was referring to the “Obama bin laden” comment, which again implies that Obama is a Muslim when he is a devout follower of Christ. It plays into fears that he is secretly a terrorist. That’s sad for too reasons: it disrespects Senator Obama’s patriotism and it suggests that all Muslims are terrorists.

  10. Patti Says:

    saying ‘Obama Bin Laden’ is a nasty thing to say. That’s why Clinton supporters have such a bad name. They resort to name calling and racist statements. Disgusting.

  11. Andy G Says:

    I know it’s hard to let go of your love for your candidate, and you shouldn’t, but it’s time to end this primary and come together. I have been totally dedicated to Hillary, but the truth is she’s not going to win and she and Obama’s policies aren’t that different. Obama is an exceptional man and has incredible presence under fire. I think he will be a strong and capable president, who really listens and deeply considers the needs of our country. Let’s end it and focus on the republicans.

  12. yvonne Says:

    Give me a break! It doesn’t take a moron to figure out that West Virginia “and” Kentucky are two of the most racist states in the US. If this Democratic election has done anything, it is the fact that it has shown the world how divided and racist this country really is; the land of opportunity, who advocates equality through out the world. How do you think the rest of the world looks at us? And it’s because of you racist white people who are cowards, smiling and grinning in African Americans’ faces and in your heart, that demonic spirit of hate and jealousy abides. These two states are predominantly white. No doubt these white people think they’re Christians. What a farce! Jesus isn’t prejudice, racist, and bigoted. God, who made the human race, doesn’t demean one ethnic group over another. And if you were smart as you think you are, you would know that history lets us know that Jesus is not white. But you claim to love him. How retarded is that???? Jesus even says in his word, “How can you love me, whom you have never seen, and hate your brother whom you have seen?” We are all one race, the human race. But you racist white people are to narrow minded to see that.

    African Americans have always had to do double of anything just to be considered equal to Caucasians. You’re just jealous of any African American who accomplishes just as much or more than you and you blame them for your own short comings and inadequacies. Obama has accomplished so much more than the average white person and he did it the haard way. And you can’t stand that, especially when it would be so much easier for you because you are white. The idea of somebody Black leading the country sickens you. Shame on you people! So for all the racist white people (not all white people, because all aren’t stupid), I thank God I’m not you. I would hate to have a heart like you people.

    Oh by the way, I am white!

  13. The truth Says:

    the truth is this… NONE of the supporters of Hillary R. Clinton will ever be able to go into ANY COMPANY in ANY CITY of ANY STATE in America and apply for any job and cite the EXPERIENCE of your mate. SHE WAS NOT PRESIDENT NOR WAS SHE VICE PRESIDENT, SO BEYOND CASUAL CONVERSATION AND POLITICAL BUSY WORK SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PRIVY TO THE POLICIES AND STRUGGLES OF THE OFFICE. As with life in general, your spouse may sympathize with regard to the situation and their sympathies may lead to compassion but, until they experience the situation for themselves they have no idea or TRUE LIFE EXPERIENCE. There’s a reason why there’s a DOCUMENTED POLL, DESCRIBING THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WITH HIGHER EDUCATION VOTE FOR OBAMA. Not because Hillary’s supporters are stupid or intelligent it’s simply because they are ignorant. What causes their ignorance is a multitude of things but, ignorance is as ignorance does none the less, to quote a fictional character that wasn’t vastly intelligent but wasn’t ignorant either. Lastly, if you support Hillary that’s okay it’s your right as an American and I would love to have a woman as President, just not Hillary.

  14. The truth Says:

    The ignorance of Hillary Supporters:
    Most of her supporters dont know Obama: NOT UNINTELLIGENT, JUST IGNORANCE
    Some of her supporters think Obama is Muslim: JUST BECAUSE OF HIS NAME BEING OBAMA AND IT SOUNDS LIKE OSAMA DOESN’T MEAN HE’S A MUSLIM AND EVEN IF HE WAS MUSLIM THAT DOESN’T MEAN HE’S A THREAT. TRUE MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN JESUS JUST AS MUCH AS CHRISTIANITY DOES, DON’T BELIEVE ME GOOGLE IT.
    Most of her supporters believe she has more experience at being President: HOW CAN YOU EXPERIENCE OR HAVE EXPERIENCE AT SOMETHING YOU’VE NEVER DONE??? DO YOU BELEIVE IF THERE WAS A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY IN DEALING WITH TERRORIST OR A STICKY INTERNATIONAL EVENT THAT OUR GOVERNMENT WOULD SEND THE FIRST LADY AS OPPOSED TO THE PRESIDENT??? THAT DIRECTLY UNDERMINES THE AUTHORITY OF THE PRESIDENT!!! DO YOU THINK THAT OUR GOVERNMENT WOULD SEND A SENATOR OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK AS OPPOSED TO THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE??? SHE HAS NO POWER ANYWHERE BUT IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, YES SHE HAS POLITICAL INFLUENCE BUT THAT’S IN LARGE BECAUSE SHE’S THE WIFE OF A FORMER PRESIDENT. SO IN A SENSE, SHE JUST MARRIED WELL. NOT TAKING ANYTHING FROM HER BUT THAT WHICH SHE CANNOT CLAIM.
    Some of her supporters believe she is dishonest and untrustworthy yet they still support her: NOW THAT’S JUST STUPID.
    The VAST MAJORITY of her supporters regularly ignore SIMPLE LOGIC to prove she should win: SPORT FRANCHISES AND TEAMS OFTEN SAY THEY ARE BETTER THAN THEY’RE RECORD BUT THEY AREN’T, THAT’S WHY IT’S THEIR RECORD. IT’S WHAT THEY DID, WASTED POTENTIAL MEANS NOTHING. MRS. CLINTON CAN SAY SHE’S THE BEST BUT SHE’S NOT BECAUSE SHE’S LOSING. AS THE PERSON WITH THE INSIDE TRACK, MORE INFLUENCE, PART OF THE ESTABLISHMENT LONGER, MORE WELL KNOWN AND ALL SHE SHOULD BE “OLBITERATING” OBAMA BUT SHE’S NOT. EVEN IF YOU ADD IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA, SHE’S LOSING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF STATES WON, SHE’S LOSING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DELEGATE COUNT, SHE LOSING. FACE THE FACTS THAT HILLARY IS SIMPLY LOSING. I KNOW HURTS BUT THAT’S THE TRUTH. THE ONLY WAY SHE CAN WIN IS TO BEG AND DO THE SAME POLITICAL POSTURING SHE CLAIMS SHE’S NOT A PART OF.

    See, the reason I can write this way is because in the beginning I too was a Hillary supporter but, there are somethings and some people that act in manners that are undeserving of your support. The fact that after every election Obama lost even before it was certain he lost he congradulates Hillary and to see Hillary congradulate him is a rare instance where usually a reporter or commentator has back her into a corner. Character people not perfection, character.

  15. Ronny P Says:

    C’mon WV, a vote for Hillary is now a complete waste of time, she cannot win so “GET OVER IT” If you are really true democrats you have to support Obama,NOW. Hillary is doing untold damage to what the Dem Party stands for.

    Hillary continues to be only “Dandruff on the Shoulders of Progress”
    C’mon WV “FIX IT”
    rONNY

  16. Ted Says:

    Senator Clinton,

    You have fought a long and tough campaign. For the most part, you fought honorably. Stepping down for the good of the party is not an act of quitting, it is an act of unselfishness, foresight, and common sense that will help unite Obamacrats and Hillarycrats against our true political foe: Senator McCain (i.e. George Bush’s 3rd term stand-in). I know in your heart and mind, you would rather have Senator Obama as president than Senator McCain. Please announce your support for Senator Obama. What would you get out of this? Only the respect of tens of millions of Americans who would appreciate you putting America ahead of your now doomed campaign. It would also greatly increase your chances of a successful campaign in 2012.

  17. Pepou Says:

    Marc Gendron is a racist and in the XXIth century this is not only sad but anachronistic (look in the dictionary for the meaning).

  18. Sam Says:

    Racism works both ways. Obama has ONLY been able to get this far because he has cared 90% of the black vote. They are not voting for issues – they are voting for skin color.

    Great way to pick the leader of the country… which is why it won’t work in November. Then we can have a good laugh about it.

  19. Jean Says:

    As an older white woman, by all rights I should be supporting Hillary Clinton … BUT I have done a lot of research on both candidates, listened carefully to every debate and their campaign speeches and have decided to support Sen. Obama. Here are my reasons:

    I visited each candidates web site and did research on the things they claim to have done during their “experience” in the political arena. Hillary has claimed the SCHIP program. In fact this program was created by Ted Kennedy not Hillary. She never mentions his name on her website but takes credit for this program. She does not have the “foreign policy” experience she claims to have. She also failed to get people working together to pass her universal health care program in the 90’s. And as Senator she mismanaged the billions of funds she got after 9/11 – the money went to large corporations not the “people” and companies not even located in NY. Her mis-statements go far beyond dodging bullets in Bosnia. I do not believe anything she says. It’s all just to get your vote.

    I watched each of them manage their campaign and I learned this:

    Sen. Obama has done an excellent job finding the right people for the right job. He inspires his people and the voters including the young. He has managed to raise more money from ordinary folks like you and I than any other candidate EVER – over 1.3 million people,not from large corporations wanting something in return. He is an excellent leader.

    As far as the gas tax “vacation” – every Economist has said it is a mistake and will only allow the Oil companies to raise the price of gas due to the raise in DEMAND with the tax cut. Hillary says, when asked what her economists said to her idea, that she wasn’t going to make decisions based on what other groups say. Absurd! A good leader doesn’t think he/she knows it all, but asks for the advice otf other experts before making decisions.

    As far as being a better diplomat especially when dealing with foreign leaders… definitely Obama. He has a calm and soothing manner, willing to see all sides and to listen to new ideas. She thinks she knows it all, is hot-headed and pisses people off with her brass manner. She called Russia’s leader Putin “souless” to which he replied, “It’s takes a head to be head of state.” I’d rather have someone respected in the world running our country.

    And finally, only Sen Obama has put his money where his mouth is – his first job out of college was to help those in the slums of Chicago to improve themselves. He earned a very low wage and worked in inner city conditions. He earned his law degree so that he could help those underprivledged as he worked as a community organizer. Clinton worked for a Law firm representing large corporations and has always been on the side of corporate lobbyists. Her financial support has come from the corporate world. It only makes sense that she will continue to act and make decsions best for corporate America, not for the middle class simple folks, no matter what she SAYS. Please don’t fall for sweet talk, look at the facts. Sen. Obama has created legislature to take away the gifts that lobbyists can give politicians, descibed as the best ethics legislature ever passed. He DOES put his money where his mouth is.

  20. Ruby Says:

    West Virginia voters know that Hillary Clinton has the best economic plan, the best health care plan, and the best education plan. Hillary should stay int the race for President for the good of the Democratic Party and the good of the country because she is the best candidate for President. Thank you for supporting Hillary!

    I am an Illinois voter who now knows that Senator Obama will not bring change we can believe in. Rather he has given the people of Illinois politics as usual!

  21. Jan H. Says:

    I would really like to think that West Virginians are smarter than they’ve been portrayed. I guess we won’t know until we see the results of the primary. I must admit I don’t understand the mindset of a group of people who believe everything thats been dished out to them by the Clintons. Can they honestly be that gullible?

  22. Jan H. Says:

    Are the people of West Virginia that closed minded. There must be a few intelligent people living there who can see past the smoke screen and realize that they’ve been duped by the Clinton machine. If not, then I’m appalled at their gullibility. I’m convinced that Obama won’t win there, with that mindset he doesn’t stand a chance, but I’m really sad that an entire group of people can be fooled so easily. But, they might prove me wrong, they might decide to actually do a little research themselves rather than rely on the media to bias it for them. We can only hope they’re capable of it.

  23. Andrew Y. Says:

    Hi all , we should act like Americans, because this country is America. God gave us everthing. This election is not a black or white election. This election is for the survival of this nation. We owe thrillions in debt, and our infrastructure is in bad shape. if we only fight among our selves, we will be devoured by other powers. Let us take some time and address the issues and understand it clearly. Our young people one day will have to pay the price for our mistakes.
    Andrew

  24. Mike Says:

    I agree, this is a circus, and Hillary is the head clown.

  25. Dave H Says:

    Having family in WV and visiting there often when I was younger, I will say this – WVirgians will vote who is going to increase their SSI, Soc. Security, WIC etc benefits. This is why Robert Byrd has been a senator forever in the state. He brings no jobs to the state, but protects their gov’t handouts.

  26. Ladyatlaw Says:

    who cares what theose hillbillies in WV do? They are not all reg to vote, many are illiterate moonshie makers who drink all day and beat thier families..So my ? to you all is who gives a dayum if hillbilly wins the moonshine, child rapist racist state? who cares she still cannot beat Obama.
    Why? do the math if u can count and remember that she is just mad and jealous because she cannot beat this Afrikan son without hanky panky..She should go home and train her silly his about being a good hus..and perhaps she should remember the B white comments she made that will run a lot of super d to Obama?
    Duh!!

  27. HARWARD Says:

    CLINTON SAID THAT SHE WIN WEST VIRGINIA BY BIG NUMBERS BECAUSE BIHIND HER ARE
    POOR AND ILLITERATE WHITES. I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS.WHAT THIS MEAN?THEY ARE IDIOTS OR WHAT?WHAT A SHAME.

  28. Eric Says:

    GOBAMA 08


  29. Hillary is starting to remind me of Adolf in the bunker in April, 1945 . . . “we will never surrender!” “we have de super weapons” “we will win this yet not matter how it looks now!”

    Give it up while you still have your dignity, Hillary. It’s over. ump on the team and come in for the big win in November. Stop hurting the party.

  30. bubear Says:

    Voters in WVA are known as “low information” voters. Not all or each and every voter but as a block, you can say, like Dave, in a previous post. it is all about the free check. What is the literacy rate in WVA? The only refreshing aspect of this low information voter is that the WIC. SSI checks and other sit on your butt handouts are not stuck on the Black Voter for once. Just as a note Hillary had over 80% of the Black vote when the primaries started. Obama had to put his goods on the table way before he got that block. If Black voters are voting for Obama because of skin color then White women are voting for Hillary because she is a woman AND her skin color. Whatever! Jesse Jackson nor Al Sharptong NEVER got 90% of the Black vote. Low information voters can take a look at Colorodo, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, White voters–they voted for Obama as did 11 other non-black majority states. Excuses. ranting are one thing, your vote is your choice, at least get your voting info stratight–then go ahead and vote against your best interest. It is that ignorance that has us in the mess we are all in now. WVA is a win/no win for Hillary, same for KY, it is a easy hillbilly uneducated vote. The rest of us in this race do not care. Hillary needs a win any way she can get it. Obama is not going to waste his time with WVA ignorance. We have moved on and our world will be better for it.

  31. jens Says:

    Why doesn’t Hillary congratulate/acknowledge Obama’s victories (like the one in NC). He always does it in his speeches after a primary. I don’t see how it would hurt her acknowledging his victory, and it makes her look just bad?

    Does anybody know what her reasons might be?

  32. IT'S TIME TO TURN THE PAGE Says:

    I learned one thing out of this primary Anerica has a race problem that is still very prominent to day. PA,OHIO,WV,KY I will always remember as the most racist states in the USA.

  33. Sherria Says:

    To “Sam” Com’on man. White people have voted for other white people almost 100% of the time (prior to Obama arriving on the scene) and that heavily one-sided ratio never bothered anybody in the past. Neither does the fact that Blacks generally will support a single candidate, often at 70, 80 and 90 percentile. That happened in many Black precints during Bill Clinton’s bid for the White house – now all of a sudden it’s an “issue”? It’s only an issue because Barack Obama is Black and the media is hell-bent on magnifying the contrast. It’s silly and totally unproductive. West Virginia, don’t fall for the same old politics. Hillary Clinton and John McCain are part of the Washington establishment, part of the trickery. Just look at their stance on the gas tax and other meaningless proposals. Support Obama, support CHANGE for the better. BARACK OBAMA: not the same old politician and not the same old politics.

  34. ANITA Says:

    I LOOKED UP THE LITERACY RATE FOR WV. 26-30% OF THE ADULT POPULATION OF WV ARE LOW-LEVEL READERS. THE RESIDENTS READ BELOW A FOURTH GRADE LEVEL. THEY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO READ BASIC INFORMATION LIKE ROAD SIGNS, JOB APPLICATIONS, NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, AND FOOD AND MEDICINE LABELS. THIS INFORMATION IS FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR LITERACY. THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 20%.

    KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, AND WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE WE ARE IGNORANT BEASTS. HILLARY CLINTON IS SAYING TO WEST VIRGINIA YOU ARE MY IGNORANT, STUPID, ILLITERATE, BASE, AND YOU WILL VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE I AM WHITE, AND FOR NO OTHER REASON. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR AND USE THE POLITICS OF FEAR RESERVED FOR THE POOR, AND AS USUAL I WILL DO NOTHING FOR YOU ONCE I HAVE ACHIEVED MY GOALS, AS I DID NOTHING FOR YOU FOR THE EIGHT YEARS THAT MY HUSBAND WAS PRESIDENT. YOU WILL USE YOUR MOST PRECIOUS ASSET WHICH IS THE RIGHT TO VOTE, TO MAKE A REAL CHANGE, TO BETTER YOUR FUTURE, AND YOUR CHILDREN’S; YOU WILL USE THIS VOTE FOR NOTHING, AND THEN CLOAK YOURSELF IN IGNORANCE AND WALLOW IN PITY WHEN NO PROMISES ARE KEPT. YOU WILL THEN TELL YOUR SELF THAT IT MAY TURN OUT ALRIGHT, BUT IT WILL NOT. AS A FELLOW MEMBER OF THE HUMAN RACE I AM ASKING YOU WEST VIRGINIA TO RISE ABOVE THE IGNORANT HATE HANDED DOWN FOR GENRATIONS, AND LET THE LIGHT IN. DO NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON, VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA.

  35. Larry Says:

    vanessa mahmoud Says:

    April 26, 2008 at 8:54 pm
    it is so sad that your racism is so intense. it is a sickness you know

    Yes vaessa racism is a learned sickness and Rev Wright has taught a lot of hatred that causes racism. Obama has 20 years, and still counting, of taught racism. We as a country white or black can’t fight off the racism that would come about if Obama was elected. Look at the area around Obama’s church, app. 360 black deaths caused by black on black, what does Rev Al, or Rev Jessie say about that….nothing….it seems as if black on black deaths is okay…but let a white person get involved…that is racism.
    I guess you think Obama and Rev Wright would be a DREAM TICKET……

    Obama/Wright 08

    Larry
    SFC Retired Army

  36. Larry Says:

    HARWARD Says:

    May 9, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    CLINTON SAID THAT SHE WIN WEST VIRGINIA BY BIG NUMBERS BECAUSE BIHIND HER ARE
    POOR AND ILLITERATE WHITES. I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS.WHAT THIS MEAN?THEY ARE IDIOTS OR WHAT?WHAT A SHAME.

    Harward you must me a real legend in your on mind. To you and everyone else that thinks the people of West Virginia are not educated, well you’re very wrong.

    By the way Clinton DID NOT say:
    THAT SHE WIN WEST VIRGINIA BY BIG NUMBERS BECAUSE BIHIND HER ARE POOR AND ILLITERATE WHITES

    Obama made that statement; he thinks WA is full of poor uneducated white blue collar workers.

    Sure we have poor people like other states, we have white and black blue collar workers, and yes we have some uneducated people, less than other states. Look at the national average of education and you will see WA places well…If we have to explain every thing to you then maybe the poorly written post is for real an you sir are the uneducated fool.

    The people of WA are smart enough to NOT vote for Obama/Wright 08…

    Larry
    SFC US Army
    Retired

  37. Sherria Says:

    To Larry SFC US Army Retired

    Comment: Man oh man it’s a miracle that we even have a Union based on the misquotes and out and out “I was under sniper fire” lies being told by everyday folks throughout our history. Obama NEVER made the statement you have attributed to him. It’s fine and quite human for us to have our disagreements but what’s disturbing and dishonest is the way in which people like you make-up stories in an effort to support your position. Standing your ground for Hillary or McCain with integrity and honesty is something I can truly respect but lying and spreading lies is psychological surrender – a means of screaming “Uncle” without verbally saying you’re whipped. Shame on you.

  38. Larry Says:

    Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | John Wilson’s Blog …
    For West Virginia to support such a candidate will promote the stereotype that
    mountain people are mostly poor, older, white, uneducated women (barefoot …
    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jrwilson/gGCNQZ

    Did anyone every tell you that you only hear what you want to hear… Get a grip and clean the wax out… Listen to the speech…

    All three of them lies and as Rev Wright said Obama says what he has to say to get elected…

    Larry
    Larry

  39. Larry Says:

    Sherria

    You are correct Obama never stated what Harward said Clinton stated… but the point I wanted to make YOU made it…and that is racism:
    rac•ism (r s z m)
    n.
    1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
    2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

    It was okay for Harward to say the white Clinton said that crap…but when I said Black Obama said it ….old man did the misquotes fly…

    By you jumping on me and not saying nothing about Harward then you my friend are a racist.

    Now what Obama has stated is: He has little support from the poor uneducated white blue collar worker.

    Now why isn’t he spending as much money in WA as he did in NC? That is because he thinks WA is a lost cause due to him thinking WA people are poor white uneducated blue collar working people…

    If you really think Obama doesn’t lie then you either haven’t been listening to the news or you only hear what you want to hear… I will list the lies if you want me to….

    Larry
    SFC US Army
    Retired
    VN68-69

  40. Larry Says:

    Sherria

    Since you only hear what you want to hear then here is a written list, I know you can read…

    1. Selma Got Me Born. LIAR–your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961; Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

    2. Father Was A Goat Herder. LIAR–he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

    3. Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter. LIAR–he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

    4. My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom. LIAR–your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades.

    5. My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian. LIAR–she does her daily Salat prayers at 5 a.m. according to her own interviews. Not to mention Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

    6. My Name is African Swahili. LIAR–your name is Arabic and Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means blessed in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

    7. I Never Practiced Islam. LIAR–you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change so you could run for office.

    8. My School In Indonesia Was Christian. LIAR–you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

    9. I Was Fluent In Indonesian. LIAR–not one teacher says you could speak the language.

    10. Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience. LIAR–you were there from ages 6 to 10 and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons?

    11. I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs. LIAR–except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

    12. I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion. LIAR–you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify-your classmates said you were just fine.

    13. An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office. LIAR–Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t–and never did–exist.

    14. A LIFE Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life. LIAR–LIFE has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t–and never did–exist.

    15. I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ’08. LIAR–here you are, despite saying on live TV you would not have enough experience by then and you are all about having experience first.

    16. Present Votes Are Common In Illinois. LIAR–they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

    17. Oops, I Mis-voted. LIAR–only when caught by church groups and democrats did you beg to change your “mis-vote”.

    18. I Was A Professor Of Law. LIAR–you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    19. I Was A Constitutional Lawyer. LIAR–you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    20. Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill. LIAR–you didn’t write it, introduce it, change it or create it.

    21. The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass. LIAR–it took just 14 days from start to finish.

    22. I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill. LIAR–your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation-mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

    23. I Have Released My State Records. LIAR–as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

    24. I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess. LIAR–you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself in your books.

    25. My Economics Bill Will Help America. LIAR–your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

    26. I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois. LIAR–even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

    27. I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year. LIAR–they were not YOUR bills but rather handed to you after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

    28. No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA. LIAR–the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

    29. I Am Tough On Terrorism. LIAR–you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

    30. I Am Not Acting As President Yet. LIAR–after the NAFTA Memo a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

    31. I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida. LIAR–you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks-and you still lost.

    32. I won Michigan. LIAR–no you didn’t.

    33. I won Nevada. LIAR–no you didn’t.

    34. I Want All Votes To Count. LIAR–you said let the delegates decide.

    35. I Want Americans To Decide. LIAR–you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote and only operate during small windows of time.

    36. I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate. LIAR–you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.

    37. My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend. LIAR–that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

    38. I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics. LIAR–you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

    39. I Don’t Take PAC Money. LIAR–you take loads of it.

    40. I Don’t Have Lobbyists. LIAR–you have over 47 lobbyists and counting.

    41. My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad. LIAR–your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

    42. My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace. LIAR–Tom, who started MySpace, issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

    43. I Inspire People With My Words. LIAR–you inspire people with other peoples’ words.

    44. I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate. LIAR–you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate– for Africa–which shows YOUR priorities.

    45. I Have Always Been Against Iraq. LIAR–you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you, Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.

    46. I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care. LIAR–your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.

    47. I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail. LIAR–both companies you cite as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

    48. I Am As Patriotic As Anyone. LIAR–you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.

    49. My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country. LIAR–your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrakhan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

    50. WalMart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support. LIAR–your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to WalMart.

    51. Treehouse Is A Small Company. LIAR–the CEO of Treehouse–last year–made more than the CEO of WalMart, according to public records.

    52. University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair. LIAR–your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!

    53. I Barely Know Rezko-Only 5 Billed Hours. LIAR–you have known him for 17 years and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had $300K taken off before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford saving you $625,000.

    54. My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly. LIAR–you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.

    55. My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church. LIAR–your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrakhan their person of the year.

    56. I Disagree With My Church All The Time. LIAR–you have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message–hatred and revenge. In 2006 alone you donated $22,500 to the church you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK-that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.

    57. I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko. LIAR–you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.

    58. I never heard sermons like Rev. Wrights, that have been in videos all day including YouTube. LIAR!–3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said, “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”

    59. The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me. LIAR — your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS-You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!

    60. Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning. LIAR — Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS-He also seems to despise America .

    61. My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase. LIAR – again, Michelle’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meek’s, and Farrakhan’s, both in language, anger, and direction.

    62. I am very Anti-Terror. LIAR–[03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed Khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS-Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto – guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.

    63. I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis. LIAR–[03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash – Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans; Obama received $266,907 from Lehman; $5,395 from GMAC; $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston; $11,250 from Countrywide; $9,052 from Washington Mutual; $161,850 from Citigroup; $4,600 from CBASS; $170,050 from Morgan Stanley; $1,150 from Centex and last but certainly NOT LEAST-Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?

    64. I played a greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion. LIAR–[03/31/2008] It was found that Obama-the day after sitting for the interview-filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey.

    65. I did NOT play the race card. LIAR–[03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Philadelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the black candidate.

    66. I did not take money from oil companies. LIAR–[03/31/2008] THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians.

    Corporations do, however, have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates.

    Obama doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.

    But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

    Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the Center’s totals.

    Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co. Source: Associated Press via Yahoo News.

    67. I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial, Obama said at a community meeting in Nelsonville, Ohio, earlier this month. LIAR – Yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia .

    68. Look at my education record in Illinois. LIAR–In reality, Obama never really championed the local councils. He supported them behind the scenes and only eventually came out publicly on their behalf. When he did weigh in, he came down on the wrong side of the debate against protecting principals from unwarranted dismissals and in favor of keeping councils independent, no matter what.

    In the end, the resolution of the conflict between the two sides didn’t alleviate anyone’s concerns. Instead, it prolonged a turf battle that seems to have dragged down academic progress in the years since. Read more here http://www.slate.com/id/2188010?wpisrc=newsletter

    1. Obama claims special birth. Much more so than we might believe.

    Reports emanating from Africa allege his mother was in Kenya with his ARAB Kenyan (NOT Black Kenyan) father–this is clearly shown in Kenyan Govt. Registry documents which list the father as an Arab Kenyan–at a very late term of her pregnancy and was not allowed on a flight to return to HAWAII .

    She gave birth to him in Kenya , immediately got on a plane and then registered him as being born in Hawaii.

    2. He is NOT an African American but an Arab American and cannot claim African minority status, which by US Federal regulations require a person to have 1/8 (one eighth) of the minority blood (12%).

    From his mother he has 50% white blood, from his father he has 43.25% Arab blood and from his MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER he manages to hold onto 6.75% African or Black heritage blood.

    He has had to duck and weave all his life and use whatever lies he could use to even pass for black and the benefits this minority status provided. So even this, while understandable-is a documented LIE.

  41. Larry Says:

    the above post was
    OBAMA’S LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES by Alan Peters

    Also check out:
    http://hennessysview.com/2008/03/01/so-obama-lies/

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/12/barack_hussein.html

    If you want more just ask….

    Larry

  42. Sherria Says:

    Oh, I forgot to mention that anybody can find Lier/Truths list on virtually any candadate via Google: type Lies Truths and the person’s name and you’ll get more links than you care to view.

    To Larry, no amount of updating your posted statements changes anything. You blantenly accused Obama of saying the Clinton can WIN WEST VIRGINIA BY BIG NUMBERS BECAUSE BIHIND HER ARE POOR AND ILLITERATE WHITES. Again he never said that. You attributed that specific statement to him – go back and read your own blog. And last, no degree of hateful, mean-spirited statement about whites, blacks, hispanic, asian, ilanders, old, young, rich, middle-class, poor and anybody else is EVER acceptable even if it’s said by someone of the same race, creed and color. Hate speech is just that. It’s meant to divide and distroy people and that we don’t need.

  43. Larry Says:

    Sherria
    Yes I said it but again read the post as to why I sad it…
    Why didn’t you jump on Harward?

    Larry

    You are correct Obama never stated what Harward said Clinton stated… but the point I wanted to make YOU made it…and that is racism:
    rac•ism (r s z m)
    n.
    1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
    2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

    It was okay for Harward to say the white Clinton said that crap…but when I said Black Obama said it ….old man did the misquotes fly…

    By you jumping on me and not saying nothing about Harward then you my friend are a racist.

    Now what Obama has stated is: He has little support from the poor uneducated white blue collar worker.

    Now why isn’t he spending as much money in WA as he did in NC? That is because he thinks WA is a lost cause due to him thinking WA people are poor white uneducated blue collar working people…

    If you really think Obama doesn’t lie then you either haven’t been listening to the news or you only hear what you want to hear… I will list the lies if you want me to….

    Larry
    SFC US Army
    Retired
    VN68-69

  44. Sherria Says:

    Larry says a point. Harward , here’s what Sen. Clinton said:
    “I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on. Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me”.
    End of quote.
    In a nut shell she said that white, hard-working American with no college degree support her more than they support Sen. Obama. Anyway that’s her summation of Obama’s inability to attract whites in that category. But he won Iowa where only 50 of the 1781 precincts are predominantly black, so her statement does not hold true for all whites or even whole states where the majority of the residence are middle-class whites. However, Sen. Clinton did not refer to them as illiterate because she understands that the absence of a college degree does not equate to one being illiterate. She has a 43% lead over Sen. Obama in West Virginia but wouldn’t it game point if he got within say, 10 or less points?!?!?! But he probably won’t. Too bad. I still hope he wins the nomination.

  45. Larry Says:

    Obama/Rev Wright 08

    What a team, I hope they win also…

    Take care and God bless…

    Larry

  46. JakeD's momma Says:

    Now now folks, lookup the name JakeD on blogs such as Washinton Post, and you will see a similar pattern to previous sveader posts such as our esteemed Larry, aka retired Army veteran. This is just what we need, given his attempts to skew public perception about the viability of the leading Democratic candidate was offset by more thoughtful (notice I did not say less well-educated) Americans.

  47. JakeD's momma Says:

    Now Jake, I dun told ya not to spread dem lies.

  48. usang Says:

    all politicians tell lies;Mc Cain,Hillary or Obama,but i find it despicable when a politician uses lies as a campaign stunt.Hillary enough of your accustomed ‘glibs’

  49. Kathy R. Says:

    Clinton is a liar this is a proven fact. How does che keep getting away with it?

  50. Ruby Says:

    Hillary Clinton cares about us and about these issues: the economy, health care, education, and job opportunities. Hillary is our strongest candidate. She is staying in this Presidential primary campaign because she is our best hope to win in November. She will fight for us and never give up fighting for us. God bless Hillary!

  51. Sam Osborne Says:

    Barak Obama needs but 1/3 of the delegates available that are still available—the party is over and Senator Clinton had best turn out the lights before she get totally humiliated and irreparably damaged. Of course, she can hand around and end up wearing the lampshade.

  52. Dave H Says:

    Here is a great article that will tell you exactly what I was stating earlier about the people in WV. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2a50425a-1f86-11dd-9216-000077b07658,s01=1.html?nclick_check=1

    Unfortunately, it doesnt just go with the illiterate, uneducated, etc. They will vote a NAME because they do not want to research positions of candidates (which again is why Robert Byrd has had job security). They know Dems normally increase government handouts. By the way – Mingo Co, Williamson is where my grandfather lived while alive. So I know exactly the mentality of the people in this article.

  53. Keith S Says:

    Dear People of West Virginia

    I apologize on behalf of my fellow Americans for the insulting remarks about West Virginians. I for one would like the Crayola way of selecting our President to stop. I am a Africian American who is Supporting Barack Obama but not on the basis of his skin color. I supporting Barack Obama because of his character in his position on the issues this country in all states of the US. I personally have never been to West Virginia therefore I am not in a position to pass a personal opinion. I know that we share the same basic value for God, Family and Country. I would welcome the chance to go West Virginia and talk to my fellow Americans. I conclude with only one request that we not vote for the Candidates base on Race, Gender and Social Level but on their character of how they about the issues of this Country.

  54. Nathaniel Says:

    The Post that contains the list of SoCalled Lies is from Snopes.com a base on Rumor site. The Sites slogan is “Rumor Has It”

  55. Keith Says:

    Dear People of West Virginia

    I would like to apologized for my fellow Americans about the negative and unfounded comments against West Virginians. I am an Africian American I am supporting Barack Obama but not because of his skin color. I am supporting Barack Obama because of his character in how he handles himself on the issues that affect this country. His campaign has never been about race it has been about our jobs security our family’s security and about the country’s security. I would like for fellow Americans to get away from this Crayola process of selecting Presidents driven by the Crayola media. The media as a majority still refers to American Voters as Black voters, White Voters, Female voters, Uneducated Voters etc. I have a questioned ,what does uneducated mean? There are some that say it is a person who has not graduated from College. Bill Gates the richest man in this US does not have a College Degree, I guess he would be considered uneducated. I concluded with this Go Vote but when you do, vote on the basis of the candidates character and not race, gender and or social level.


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